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't know kendall-jackson -- >> it's one of those things where we're actually called jackson family wine. so we probably have 25 wineries, so we own wineries like kendall-jackson, like la crema, brands in napa. we also have, you know, wines that we own around the world, as well. so we're a relatively, you know, good-sized family business. >> i only got one question, it's a stupid question, like a lot of them are. so i can buy a pinot with a twist off? how do i get past the idea -- >> i love the twist off. >> i can't do it. i feel like i'm -- i feel like i'm tringing apple -- at a party. if you serve a twist off don't people look at you like -- >> no! >> stays better with the twist off, right, rick? >> joe, you got to get past that. >> i do? >> yeah, you do. >> you're not going to make -- >> no, we don't. but actually we're coming off with a pinot gris this may which will be down from monterey and it will actually have a screw cap. so get past the cork thing. america loves the cork because it's traditional. but the screw cap is a really good closure. >> and it keeps it, like sometimes the cor
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